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Offline arselus

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Wissenlanders of Antiochia [WIP Army Blog]
« on: January 02, 2010, 10:09:45 AM »
Hi Folks,

I'm still relatively new to Warhammer and Warhammer-Empire. I was very glad to find this community where many talented modelers, painters, and strategists share their work. I would like to thank everyone that posts pictures of their projects, it is great fun and an inspiration to see what people are working on.

Here is my current project:
I am working on a Wissenland themed army on crusade in Araby. Ive got some spearmen and a couple of knights done for now, I'll keep the blog updated as often as I can,

Comments and advice are always welcome!



The black and white standard and black/ white shields were inspired by some of Gabrionus's knights, which in my opinion are brilliant: (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=28199.0)






The following knights are inspired by Otaku's excellent knights of the white wolf: (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=31318.0)


It would be very helpful to me if someone could offer advice about how to paint a more crisp Maltese Cross on this knights shoulder pad:


WIP Standard bearer

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Offline White Knight

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2010, 11:09:38 AM »
It would be very helpful to me if someone could offer advice about how to paint a more crisp Maltese Cross on this knights shoulder pad:

Get one of those finetipped micron pens and outline the cross with black, it will pop more and look crisper. :-)

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 01:01:15 PM »
Looking pretty good so far, I like the unit of knights. I'd try to get some variation into the bases though, you might want to try some off-colored rocks or a few patches of grass to make them more interesting. It would also help to brush the sand a bit with a lighter color to give it more texture. For that you might want to start with a darker base color though.

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2010, 05:02:26 PM »
Hey man welcome first of all....Second the army is looking good keep posting as you finish models ..this sight is great source if inspiration to me and it will help you as well..... :::cheers:::
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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2010, 11:04:55 PM »
It would be very helpful to me if someone could offer advice about how to paint a more crisp Maltese Cross on this knights shoulder pad:

Get one of those finetipped micron pens and outline the cross with black, it will pop more and look crisper. :-)
I was going to suggest painting over the 40k decals, but your freehand is excellent. So I'd go with above suggestion!

Great stuff, I like your use of the bretonnina knights, but also your version of the red and white armour. I'd break up the handgunner's grey though- maybe make his torso black or something. Right now he's very grey.

Keep posting!

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 03:47:44 AM »
Here is the latest update, still very WIP, I wish I had more time to paint

I imagine that crusading armies would cary a great deal of flags, standards, banners, etc. I am building a unit of 5 knights who will all be carrying flags to represent this idea. Ironically I plan on fielding the unit without a standard bearer:





















The top left (red-yellow-white knight shield) shield is inspired by Patsy02's excellent shields from the spearmen unit posted on WE, (http://www.warhammer-empire.com/theforum/index.php?topic=31791.msg467105#msg467105)



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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 11:35:12 AM »
Nice banners! The barding on the horses is absolutely stunning.

You could try to thin your paints a bit though for banner application- right now it seems a bit thick.
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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 03:32:50 PM »
Some good creative stuff here.  Particularly like the barding with the yellow having red and white on the edges.

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Offline arselus

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 07:00:21 PM »
Nice banners! The barding on the horses is absolutely stunning.

You could try to thin your paints a bit though for banner application- right now it seems a bit thick.


Yes thank you for that advice Obi, I think I will try thinning my paints down from now on. I have feared doing it, thinking it would take far longer to paint, but it will be worth a cleaner and thinner look. The strange thing is, the pictures make paint look so much thicker and more messy. On the models it doesn't look too problematic, but maybe that's because I'm looking from so far away.

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2010, 08:08:24 PM »
I like the idea from you. Just as Obi said always thin down the paints! :eusa_clap:
As fore the different types of banners really nice perhaps have a look at some nice movies to do some inspiration. :smile2:

Offline arselus

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2010, 11:13:14 PM »
A long overdue unit of five knights, I am working on the grandmaster, and there are 4 more undercoated ones that I probably wont get to until late spring:





Their shoulder shields have been simplified, I'm thinking about just adding a black Greek cross to all of them, simple and clean.


and, the banner knights which i have posted in, show us ...your banners:



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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2010, 09:00:36 AM »
Cool knights especially the Maltese ones  :::cheers:::  I have to do something like that some time but I am waiting for some new Empire knight kits to come out first.
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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2010, 02:01:56 PM »
the banner unit may be OTT

Offline arselus

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2010, 08:41:51 PM »
My first attempts at a wissenland banner, I'm happy with the result. I'm still learning how to thin down paints, I suspect I have more to learn... :happy:













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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2010, 08:49:48 PM »
 :eusa_clap:  :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:


thanks for sharing the WIP pictures as well  :happy:
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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2010, 09:24:02 PM »
That new banner is looking quite good. Just on a second look though I would advise adding some dusty effects to the bottom of the barding on your first knights.

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2010, 01:08:42 AM »
I like the banner, and it was neat to see how you did it.  Thank you! :icon_biggrin: :icon_cool: :::cheers:::
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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2010, 03:44:02 AM »
There is somthing fantastic about this army concept. I will follow this. Good job, I love the knights.  :-)
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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2010, 11:12:03 PM »
Really good job on the banners! Your free hand looks amazing. The variety in the banners adds a good deal of character to the units

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2010, 12:16:45 AM »
I didn't see the first unit of knights before. Really like the way you did them. They are not too fussy but look really mean and also... vibrant in a good way.

Your banner painting is impressive.  8-)
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Offline arselus

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2010, 01:09:20 AM »
Thank you everyone for the supportive comments. The knights have changed just a little bit, with black crosses now instead of red. As for banners, I had a lot of fun painting that one, I'm now planning how to include more and more in my army. I'm particularly fond of this idea: Have a Nuln Gunnery School Banner set up behind the cannons, maybe as a turn counter, but mostly as an excuse to paint a cool banner that otherwise might not make it into this army. 

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2010, 01:57:45 AM »
I like the idea of making a banner for a turn counter.  Keep in mind, with any luck the new WFB edition might include the use of objectives, and I suspect banners could work quite nicely for this, too. :icon_cool:
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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2010, 01:18:24 PM »
Awesome banner!  Quite good for freehand work.  Are you going to use the griffon in the crown on the other side?
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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2010, 05:47:20 PM »
Good work. Keep it up.
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Offline arselus

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Re: Wissenlanders on Crusade [WIP Army Blog]
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2010, 02:33:19 AM »
Thank you!

@ wissenlander, Yeah I am planning on the red griffon in the crown for the back. Although, the front side was very do-able because the checkers provided a nice frame of reference, for where all the bends in the lion should go. The yellow back doesn't have that sort of reference, so I am wondering if the griffon will look as good as the lion.